Accountant by Day
28Jul/1113

The cost of college

Nicoleandmaggie have brought up quite a controversial issue with their post "Education and kids these days: a cranky rant." Notwithstanding their opinions on working or not during college, it made me think about how much someone should be willing to pay for college.

If you go to a public university in-state, in general you will have fewer loans, or have to work less, than you would if you attended a more prestigious private school. Unless you can get a scholarship to the private school that the public school won't offer you, which judging by the comments on the aforementioned post, is something that can happen, although I did not realize that before.

How much does going to college cost?

I went to the University of Georgia, and Georgia is known for having cheap public schools, so I did a little summary of how much it would cost to go there. Without my parents paying for food and housing, how much would I have needed to borrow in student loans/earn on my own?

Tuition

A quick check on their tuition and fees for the Fall 2011 semester shows that a student can expect to pay the university $4,736 to attend class this fall.

Annual tuition cost: $9,500

Cost of housing

From their housing department, it looks like to live in one of the typical freshman dorms would cost about $2,500 to $3,000 per semester. That's for a shared bedroom, and community bathrooms. If you elect to live in the much nicer apartment-style dorms, that'll cost you about $3,200 to $3,500 per semester, depending on whether you share a bathroom. Actually, the price difference between freshman high rises and the apartment style dorms really shocks me, because the quality of living in the two areas is hugely different.

Annual cost of living on campus: $6,000 for fall and spring, plus another $1,200 or so to live there over the summer. So $7,200 total.

UGA is in a pretty cheap town, housing wise, so you can get a shared apartment where you all have private bathrooms for about $350 - $450/month. Plus utilities of let's say $100/month. Depends on how many people you split it with though. So using a rent + utilities of $500/month over 12 months (because you have to sign 12 month leases there), your housing costs would be about $6,000 for the year.

Annual cost of living off campus: $6,000.

Cost of food

The 7-day unlimited meal plan costs $3,792 for the spring and fall school year. Plus $1,538 over the summer. That's $5,330 for the year. But you probably won't survive on just that, since it would be nice to eat out with your new friends from time-to-time, plus the dining halls close over holidays, and aren't open certain days in some summer months. So let's add another $100 per month for other food.

Annual cost of food on meal plan: $6,530

If you live off campus and decide to go off the meal plan, if you spend $300/month on groceries:

Annual cost of food off of meal plan: $3,600

Cost of transportation

If you own a car, I imagine you could expect to pay about $200/month for gas, assuming you drive home for a couple of weekends. Car insurance would run you, what, $100- 150/month? (I pay my insurance, but it is on my parents' plan, so I'm not sure how much it would cost an 18-21 year old to have their own plan.) Plus if you are still making car payments each month, let's call that $300/month. No idea if that's a good number, but roughly, owning a car will cost you about $8,000/year.

UGA students can ride the town buses for free, so theoretically one could elect to forego owning a car. However, from experience it can take the bus about an hour to get to the grocery store, when it would take 15 minutes by car, for example, so most students feel like it's necessary to own a car. However, assuming you really are trying to cut costs, living on campus and using the meal plan would be a good alternative to not owning a car. For the purpose of this little analysis, let's assume you go with that cheaper option. You'll pay an extra $1,200 to live on campus and an extra $2,900 to pay for the meal plan instead of buying groceries, so the cost of NOT owning a car would be about $4,000 (unless you own a car AND live on campus with the meal plan.)

Other costs

Other costs will come up. Student insurance. Books. Alcohol. Let's say that works out to about $450/month.

Total other costs: $5,400.

So how much does going to college for one year cost?

Let's assume that you live on campus in an apartment style dorm and use the meal plan. Your costs for one year of college will be about $28,630. If you can get a tuition waiver, your costs will be closer to $20,000 per year.

Taking out student loans

If you take out student loans for everything, and have a tuition waiver, you'll come of of school with $80,000 in debt. What can you expect your starting salary to be? $25,000 - $60,000? (50k is typical for accounting grads. 60k is typical of engineering. Most other grads should expect to earn a less). So to follow the rule of graduating with less debt than your starting annual salary, if you think you can get $35,000 out of college, you'll have to earn $45,000 through work to help cover your costs. ($80,000 minus $35,000 loans.)

If you have an okay campus job, you could probably make about $8/hour right now. If you work 45 weeks of the year, you'd have to work about 30 hours per week to pay for the rest of your tuition. If you're taking a full course-load, I'd guess that 20 hours/week is a more ideal number of hours to work (because to some extent, the busier you are, the better student you become, I think, but past 20 hours I think you will start to really struggle to keep up with class work. Depends on you and your major of course.)

What about at other schools?

What about kids going to state schools that are located in cities? Their housing costs will be even higher. What about kids attending private colleges, because they were convinced that the better education will give them an edge later on, or that the school will be a better "fit" for them?

I just don't see how you can pay for college on 100% loans and be anywhere close to having your loans = your starting salary.

Conclusion

I don't really know what I set out to prove with this post, but my conclusion is that having to pay for college all by yourself sets you up in a poor financial situation immediately after college. If you are in a fast-paced, well paying career, you may be able to make up the cost of high loans due to quick promotions and raises.

I am even more impressed by people who paid for 100% of college through their own earnings, without needing additional loans to help them. I'm interested to know how the commenters on Nicoleandmaggie's post managed to get educations at private colleges that only resulted in $2,000 of student loan debt. Maybe I should have applied to lower-tier private schools that would have offered me more than just free tuition, which is what I got from my state school? I just assumed that any private college would be more expensive when I was looking at schools.

And of course, this just highlights for me how important it is for students to apply and apply and apply for every scholarship they can find.

Any thoughts on the high cost of attending college? Do you see some problems with my estimates in this little scenario? Do you think choosing a private college over the low-cost state university in my example would be a good economic decision/investment?

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  1. I don’t have much insight in the issue, since I did my PhD all with scholarships and fellowships, but one thing I’ve found is that parents and seniors in high school don’t have much idea about how to apply for financial aid, scholarships, and the opportunities available. I know a student who wanted to be a fashion designer, was admitted at Parsons in NY, but never bothered to check if there was any scholarship availbale. Neither did her parents. If she was admitted to Parsons, I’m sure she has talent and can find something.

    • I think my parents assumed just as much as I did that I wasn’t anything special, academics-wise, so that there wouldn’t be much scholarship money available. Looking back, I think we just had no idea how much was available and that I should at least try for it.
      During college I lived with a friend who applied for tons of fancy federal scholarships for his study abroad program – and he won all of them! When I studied abroad, again, I just didn’t know that programs like that were meant for *me*, I figured they were meant for geniuses. Turns out, a really convincing essay that shows that you’re a focused student can be more important than what you think of your own IQ :)

      • I didn’t get much scholarship either. It’s too bad the high school guidance counselors aren’t more helpful here. At least now I know to apply for everything for when my kid get to college.

        • It’s hard to know how you compare to the rest of the world when you only can compare yourself within your own high school. You don’t have a good sense for how much colleges know about your high school, and how much they’ll value a 3.7 from your school vs. a 4.0 from a school in the next town over.

  2. On the other hand, I’ve also written letters of recommendations for a student trying to get a $1000 scholarship that her father’s company gave to whoever was the best student of their employees’ children

  3. I went to a top private school– consistently ranked in the top 5 in its class in US News. I was awesome (grades, test scores, activities– I took advantage of every chance I could). My parents were low income (I believe around median income for the US). That meant lots of grant money directly from the school, which covered *both* room and board. I also had scholarship money from several sources, including one that paid my full tuition my senior year, which I could not have gotten had I not had stellar grades. I also had work-study and worked 10-20 hrs/week during the year, mostly grading and TAing. One summer I worked as a research assistant.

    Very few moderate to low income families actually pay the full sticker price for school. Many of the ivies now pay full tuition for all families with income below 75K. If you get into a decently funded school and your parents don’t make a lot of money, you should not have to pay any more than you can afford + reasonable loans any place you get in. If your parents are bringing down 200K/year, then yes, some of that should go to pay for your schooling.

    Some schools are not decently funded. They are going to be more expensive.

    There are external scholarships, but most of my funding came either from my home state or from within my school. Even after you have matriculated, it is worth checking out the financial aid office at the college or university for additional potential scholarships. My school did a great job matching students with these fellowships.

  4. I think I got pretty lucky considering that I went to a private school in New York City and graduated with only 17,500 in loans. Granted that’s still quite a bit, but there were a few freshmen that changed schools or dropped out because they couldn’t afford more than one year at my school. But it was my dream school and I did whatever it took to make sure I could afford to go there.

    Since I’m from NYC, I lived with my parents until my last semester when I moved in with my boyfriend who kindly supported me until I got a job. Luckily I landed a paid internship 2 1/2 months after moving in together. But this saved me 40,000 a year (not including summer housing).

    My school gave me a scholarship for roughly a 1/3 of the yearly tuition. I took out the maximum Stafford loans I could, and my parents paid for the rest. I also saved up some money from a high school job, so when I decided to take classes during January and summer sessions, I was able to pay for most of it myself.

    I would not have gone there if I couldn’t pay everything off in a reasonable time or if me going there would put my parents in a compromising financial situation. Unfortunately not everyone thinks ahead. I know someone who went to a school for a degree she isn’t using and doesn’t plan to ever use and is stuck with almost 150,000 in student loans.

    I’m definitely grateful for the small amount of loans I have, but I will have to go back to school to become a CPA. Hopefully by the time I have to go back, I will pay off my undergrad loans.

  5. It is just like anything else in this world. If you hustle and do some research, you can figure out ways to make it work.

  6. I think it depends on what you want to do when you graduate. If you want to work at a big name accounting firm, plan on going to a competitive school which is probably pricey. If you want to be a school teacher, where you go (as long as the program is good) is not as crucial.

    • I disagree with that example at least – in my experience, accounting firms hire from a few decent schools in the area. So if you live in Atlanta, you have a great shot of getting into a Big 4 firm if you do well at UGA, probably more so than some of the private schools in the state, since our accounting program is better. If you know what you want to do, make sure the school you pick is known for that – not just more expensive. I only know about accounting, but especially with accounting, a lot of the top programs are at public universities.


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