Accountant by Day
1Nov/117

Who are the Joneses?

We often use "Keeping up with the Joneses" to refer to the phenomenon of people spending more than they can afford in order to act like they have the same income as their neighbors. (Who are probably also spending more than they can afford.)

But keeping up with the Joneses is not just limited to overspending. We live in a competitive society, and it seems like we can also get competitive about frugality - or even going green!

This family made headlines for their zero-waste household. They produce absolutely no garbage, and only a small amount of recycling. Of course, we should all be so good to the environment, and yet the comments on this article show how angry people get at this family! Many commenters acidly point out that the family can only do this because they are wealthy, and one spouse stays at home (making their somewhat cumbersome grocery shopping process easier I suppose?) Some commenters suggest that the family is lying about their success, that their kids are just as consumerist as their peers, but wait until they're over at a friend's house to show it.

But really, if we all implemented just a couple of their trash-saving techniques, we would be doing the world a favor. No one is saying you HAVE to be like this family. Maybe you can't afford the stuff they buy package-free and all-natural, but no one is saying that YOU must, just because this family does. They are simply shining examples of the trashlessness that is potentially possible to achieve. The value in their story to you lies in finding the bits and pieces that you can adopt in your own life to reduce your trash a little bit.

But people get angry because they're competitive. They think because this family is 100% trash free, then they will be expected to achieve that too. When you think about it rationally, there's no reason to be upset with these people - if we all reduce our trash by 10%, we'd have a huge effect on the environment. If a family reduces their trash 100%, they make up for 9 of their neighbors NOT cutting trash 10%.

I see the same reactions to "extreme" frugality. For example, I enjoyed this post from Mr. Money Mustache outlining how to take into account all of the true costs of commuting. The points MMM brought up made me realize it is more worth it to pay more rent to continue to live close to work. After reading through the post once, I left with the realization that MMM had recommended biking to work if possible, but as a driver, that the rest of the article was still applicable to my situation.

Later, I stumbled across a post on another blog viciously attacking MMM's analysis of commuting costs. Commenters on this blog agreed that his advice was ridiculous, that he thought everyone should bike to work, that the advice was useless since most people don't want to show up sweaty to work.

But MMM never held a gun to your head and said "bike to work!" so what's all the fuss about? He had some good points on how people don't sit down and calculate exactly how much more their commute will cost for each mile they move further from work. Based on my reading of the post, again, I saw a set of ideas and tools that I could pick and choose from to apply or not apply in my life, depending on whether they would work with my lifestyle. So why do people get so angry?

Again, I think our competitive natures cause us to lash out when we see someone else living the dream of early retirement - when we get their advice on how they manage it, and find it's not what we want to do, we try to attack THEIR lifestyle and ideas.

Do you find yourself resenting frugality bloggers for being able to bike to work when you can't? Do you feel guilty for not being as green as your neighbors are? Who are your personal Joneses? Who are the people you try (perhaps too) hard to keep up with?

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  1. I learn something from everybody. The more diverse things I read, the more I learn. It is up to me to decide what to do. I take responsibility for what I do and don’t do. I find it amazing how many people can blame other people or shift the blame and excuse themselves.
    krantcents recently posted..I Want to be a Rock Star!

  2. I sometimes used to heave a heavy sigh that I don’t enjoy being early retired as much as everyone on the early-retirement forum board. But then I woke up and realized that they’re a self-selecting group. The people who found work more fulfilling than the regulars there have gone on to do other things and aren’t posting there. Not only that, but there are phases of life we all go through – and how I think or feel today may not be how I feel 5-10 years from now.

    I just wanted the ability to have the option to do one or the other – and it’s like that with almost everything.
    Jacq recently posted..10 reasons why I should get a job

  3. My cousin rags on my mom for not using the recycle bin on trash day…but then I was like but my mom doesn’t actually ever throw jars away. Plus she makes everything from scratch and grows stuff so she’s not generating as much garbage.

    In my eyes not making the garbage in the first place is a lot greener than feeling good about filling up a recycle bin. Everyones definition of green is different and although my mom does throw the occasional tuna can away, the rest of her lifestyle more than makes up for it. We all alphabet to pick our battles and every little bit does help.
    First gen American recently posted..Rules to Lifestyle Inflation

    • Remind your cousin that “reduce, reuse, recycle” is best done *in that order.* Babci’s reuse of jars trumps recycling those jars, since it takes energy to recycle glass into new containers – Babci is preventing herself from having to buy anything new by owning jars that she can reuse over and over.

  4. People are envious of others successes. They also want an easy fix- do they are going to judge and belittle others who are going above & beyond.

    I try to take what I can use from the things I read, and pass on the things that don’t apply to us. I can be jealous that I can’t ride my bike to work like some, but it’s hard to fit 2 small kids on a bike when I have to take them to school (no bus service). So I’ll keep paying for gas & driving.

    Anytime you have someone pushing limits, there will be negative people to comment (unfortunately).
    Sandy H recently posted..The ToothFairy

  5. We *are* the people other folks are jealous of. ;)
    nicoleandmaggie recently posted..Best spouses by discipline

  6. I think our society foster competition and most people buy into that idea. I think I’m mostly immune to the KUWTJ disease since I think it’s great that those people can reduce their trash that much. :)
    retirebyforty recently posted..Economic Inequality Is Bad For Your Health


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